Is there anybody here?

[John Williamson]

Apart from the spammers?

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return to our
normal low traffic again.
--scott

[Liz Tuddenham]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return to our
normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

[Geoff]

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return to our
normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

Well, the spammers didn't go.


But I'm here again, without the spam on Eternal September !

eternal-september.org

cheers

g ;- )

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by Geoff

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return to our
normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

Well, the spammers didn't go.
But I'm here again, without the spam on Eternal September !

Yaaay!
--scott

[Liz Tuddenham]

Post by Geoff

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return to our
normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

Well, the spammers didn't go.

I think the deadline is Monday 26th.

[Ant]

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Geoff

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return to our
normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

Well, the spammers didn't go.

I think the deadline is Monday 26th.

I thought it was the 22nd (a couple days ago).

[Liz Tuddenham]

Post by Ant

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Geoff

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return
to our normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

Well, the spammers didn't go.

I think the deadline is Monday 26th.

I thought it was the 22nd (a couple days ago).

Most of the spam on this group seemed to stop about 6 days ago but it
was still getting through on <sci.electronics.design> until 18 hours
ago. It seems to have stopped now, hopefully for good ( ...certainly
for better).

[Roy W. Rising]

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Ant

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Geoff

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return
to our normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

Well, the spammers didn't go.

I think the deadline is Monday 26th.

I thought it was the 22nd (a couple days ago).

Most of the spam on this group seemed to stop about 6 days ago but it
was still getting through on <sci.electronics.design> until 18 hours
ago. It seems to have stopped now, hopefully for good ( ...certainly
for better).
--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

John started this thread last Monday 2-19. The last spam entry was on Thursday 2-22. THANKS! to whoever pulled this off. I hope it sticks. I look forward to resuming our eclectic exchanges.

"If you notice the sound, it's wrong" ~ Roy W. Rising

[John Williamson]

Post by Roy W. Rising
John started this thread last Monday 2-19. The last spam entry was on Thursday 2-22. THANKS! to whoever pulled this off. I hope it sticks. I look forward to resuming our eclectic exchanges.

Google did it. They cut their peering connection with usenet. If they
hadn't, many usenet server owners were considering de-peering their end
of the connection, or just killing all posts originating on the Google
servers. Just as we no longer see their posts, Google Groups members
will no longer see ours.

The elimination of received spam before the cut off date was the result
of some heroic programming by many news server admins round the world.

[david gourley]

Post by Geoff

Post by Liz Tuddenham

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Yes, and in four days the spammers will be gone and we can return to
our normal low traffic again.

Seconded.

Well, the spammers didn't go.
But I'm here again, without the spam on Eternal September !
eternal-september.org
cheers
g ;- )

+1
david

[Markus Ermert]

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Ja.

[Tobiah]

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Like spirits with unresolved Earthly business,
we glide through the hallways trying to find
out whether there is really any benefit to sample
rates above 44.1k, and whether Pro-tools does anything
useful that Reaper can't. :)

[Liz Tuddenham]

Post by Tobiah

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Like spirits with unresolved Earthly business,
we glide through the hallways trying to find
out whether there is really any benefit to sample
rates above 44.1k, and whether Pro-tools does anything
useful that Reaper can't. :)

I would answer "No" to the first one and suggest you could include far
more applications than Reaper in the second.



(Fingers in ears, awaiting explosions.)

[John Williamson]

Post by Tobiah

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Like spirits with unresolved Earthly business,
we glide through the hallways trying to find
out whether there is really any benefit to sample
rates above 44.1k, and whether Pro-tools does anything
useful that Reaper can't. :)

<Grin> When I am editing or cleaning up a recording, the higher sample
rates let me do a better job. When listening at home, at my age, the HF
limit is in my ears, not the equipment.

As for the Pro Tools against Reaper thing, it depends on what you count
as useful. One good point about Pro Tools, though, is that I can use
files from and send files to just about any professional mixing facility
and know they will drop into their workflow with no trouble, while
Reaper tends to be used more at the home studio end of the market.

[Liz Tuddenham]

John Williamson <***@btinternet.com> wrote:

[...]

Post by John Williamson
As for the Pro Tools against Reaper thing, it depends on what you count
as useful. One good point about Pro Tools, though, is that I can use
files from and send files to just about any professional mixing facility
and know they will drop into their workflow with no trouble, while
Reaper tends to be used more at the home studio end of the market.

This is the only reason I have ever heard for usomg Pro-tools. It does
the same things as dozens of other programs for a higher price and a
more difficult learning curve -- but everyone uses it, so everyone uses
it.

[geoff]

Post by John Williamson

Post by Tobiah

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Like spirits with unresolved Earthly business,
we glide through the hallways trying to find
out whether there is really any benefit to sample
rates above 44.1k, and whether Pro-tools does anything
useful that Reaper can't.  :)

<Grin> When I am editing or cleaning up a recording, the higher sample
rates let me do a better job. When listening at home, at my age, the HF
limit is in my ears, not the equipment.
As for the Pro Tools against Reaper thing, it depends on what you count
as useful. One good point about Pro Tools, though, is that I can use
files from and send files to just about any professional mixing facility
and know they will drop into their workflow with no trouble, while
Reaper tends to be used more at the home studio end of the market.

A situation engineered by the Apple maxim (initially at least) of
locking the early market leader to a particular computer and interface
platform (and 'cost') early in the evolution of the technology, gaining
a near impenetrable foothold (as in monopoly) from which escape is
difficult.

There have been several attempt at undiscriminating cross-platform
project file formats, the latest being 'DAWproject' files from Presonus,
which includes pretty much all usable info including plugins and
associated parameters.

geoff

[geoff]

Post by geoff

Post by John Williamson

Post by Tobiah

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Like spirits with unresolved Earthly business,
we glide through the hallways trying to find
out whether there is really any benefit to sample
rates above 44.1k, and whether Pro-tools does anything
useful that Reaper can't.  :)

<Grin> When I am editing or cleaning up a recording, the higher sample
rates let me do a better job. When listening at home, at my age, the
HF limit is in my ears, not the equipment.
As for the Pro Tools against Reaper thing, it depends on what you
count as useful. One good point about Pro Tools, though, is that I can
use files from and send files to just about any professional mixing
facility and know they will drop into their workflow with no trouble,
while Reaper tends to be used more at the home studio end of the market.

A situation engineered by the Apple maxim (initially at least) of
locking the early market leader to a particular computer and interface
platform (and 'cost') early in the evolution of the technology, gaining
a near impenetrable foothold (as in monopoly) from which escape is
difficult.
There have been several attempt at undiscriminating cross-platform
project file formats, the latest being 'DAWproject' files from Presonus,
which includes pretty much all usable info including plugins and
associated parameters.
geoff

https://www.bitwig.com/support/technical_support/dawproject-file-format-faqs-62/

[geoff]

Post by geoff

Post by geoff

Post by John Williamson

Post by Tobiah

Post by John Williamson
Apart from the spammers?

Like spirits with unresolved Earthly business,
we glide through the hallways trying to find
out whether there is really any benefit to sample
rates above 44.1k, and whether Pro-tools does anything
useful that Reaper can't.  :)

<Grin> When I am editing or cleaning up a recording, the higher
sample rates let me do a better job. When listening at home, at my
age, the HF limit is in my ears, not the equipment.
As for the Pro Tools against Reaper thing, it depends on what you
count as useful. One good point about Pro Tools, though, is that I
can use files from and send files to just about any professional
mixing facility and know they will drop into their workflow with no
trouble, while Reaper tends to be used more at the home studio end of
the market.

A situation engineered by the Apple maxim (initially at least) of
locking the early market leader to a particular computer and interface
platform (and 'cost') early in the evolution of the technology,
gaining a near impenetrable foothold (as in monopoly) from which
escape is difficult.
There have been several attempt at undiscriminating cross-platform
project file formats, the latest being 'DAWproject' files from
Presonus, which includes pretty much all usable info including plugins
and associated parameters.
geoff

https://www.bitwig.com/support/technical_support/dawproject-file-format-faqs-62/

... and of course there is always AAF.

geoff

[Tim Sprout]

I use Reaper because of its ability to record midi tracks of my
electronic tom tom’s. What I don’t like is that for sessions longer than
two hours Reaper begins a new 2nd wav file so I have to stitch the two
consecutive tracks together in Audition where I do my editing.

(Still lurking amateur, these days using NovaBBS, free browser based
Usenet)

[Geoff]

Post by Tim Sprout
I use Reaper because of its ability to record midi tracks of my
electronic tom tom’s. What I don’t like is that for sessions longer than
two hours Reaper begins a new 2nd wav file so I have to stitch the two
consecutive tracks together in Audition where I do my editing.
(Still lurking amateur, these days using NovaBBS, free browser based
Usenet)

Recording MIDI tracks does not generate WAV files.

But why bring Audition into the equation? Simply edit in Reaper !

[John Williamson]

Post by Geoff

Post by Tim Sprout
I use Reaper because of its ability to record midi tracks of my
electronic tom tom’s. What I don’t like is that for sessions longer than
two hours Reaper begins a new 2nd wav file so I have to stitch the two
consecutive tracks together in Audition where I do my editing.
(Still lurking amateur, these days using NovaBBS, free browser based
Usenet)

Recording MIDI tracks does not generate WAV files.

True, but a Reaper session file can contain both MIDI and WAV files. WAV
files have a size limit set by the operating system.

Post by Geoff
But why bring Audition into the equation? Simply edit in Reaper !

Reaper may be hard coded to the FAT32 file size limits, while Audition
allows larger files as long as your computer uses NTFS.

I am, though, wondering why the OP is generating sessions longer than
two hours. Most people need to take a break and that is usually the cue
to start a new recording.

[Scott Dorsey]

I played around a bit with Reaper and found it kind of annoying, in
part because of the tight MIDI integration which looked like a very
useful thing for people using MIDI but problematic for me as someone
who doesn't use it.

How have you liked just working inside Reaper? Are you using it just
as a fancy sequencer?
--scott

[John Williamson]

Post by Scott Dorsey
I played around a bit with Reaper and found it kind of annoying, in
part because of the tight MIDI integration which looked like a very
useful thing for people using MIDI but problematic for me as someone
who doesn't use it.
How have you liked just working inside Reaper? Are you using it just
as a fancy sequencer?
--scott

<Grinn>I had the same problems as you, it didn't suit my needs. I use
Audition and Audacity.

Tim Sprout, on the other hand, quite likes it. :-)

[Geoff]

Post by Scott Dorsey
I played around a bit with Reaper and found it kind of annoying, in
part because of the tight MIDI integration which looked like a very
useful thing for people using MIDI but problematic for me as someone
who doesn't use it.
How have you liked just working inside Reaper? Are you using it just
as a fancy sequencer?
--scott

I use it almost exclusively for audio-only projects.

[Nil]

Post by Scott Dorsey
I played around a bit with Reaper and found it kind of annoying, in
part because of the tight MIDI integration which looked like a very
useful thing for people using MIDI but problematic for me as someone
who doesn't use it.

I don't get it. If you don't use MIDI, the MIDI features are all but
invisible. If you just do audio, you may never see signs of MIDI except
in the menus (which could be customized to hide those options.)

MIDI editing is not Reaper's strongest suit, though it has improved a
lot over the past few years.

[Nil]

Post by John Williamson
True, but a Reaper session file can contain both MIDI and WAV
files. WAV files have a size limit set by the operating system.

Post by Geoff
But why bring Audition into the equation? Simply edit in Reaper !

Reaper may be hard coded to the FAT32 file size limits, while
Audition allows larger files as long as your computer uses NTFS.

Reaper can be set to write files in Wave64 format, which I've been told
can exceed normal WAV file size limits, if the operating system and
disk file system allows it.

[polymod]

Post by John Williamson
True, but a Reaper session file can contain both MIDI and WAV
files. WAV files have a size limit set by the operating system.

Post by Geoff
But why bring Audition into the equation? Simply edit in Reaper !

Reaper may be hard coded to the FAT32 file size limits, while
Audition allows larger files as long as your computer uses NTFS.

Reaper can be set to write files in Wave64 format, which I've been told
can exceed normal WAV file size limits, if the operating system and
disk file system allows it.
Correct.
Check "Allow large files to use Wave64" in your Project Settings/Audio
Settings.

Poly

[Roy W. Rising]

Post by Tim Sprout
I use Reaper because of its ability to record midi tracks of my
electronic tom tom?s. What I don?t like is that for sessions longer than
two hours Reaper begins a new 2nd wav file so I have to stitch the two
consecutive tracks together in Audition where I do my editing.
(Still lurking amateur, these days using NovaBBS, free browser based
Usenet)
--
Tim Sprout

I'm glad to see responses from the true experts who still visit here. I'm reminded of the discussions about using the "other" blade groove in our EDITall blocks. (Degauss the blade!)
MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!

"If you notice the sound, it's wrong!" ~ Roy W. Rising

[Nil]

Post by Tim Sprout
I use Reaper because of its ability to record midi tracks of my
electronic tom tom's. What I don't like is that for sessions
longer than two hours Reaper begins a new 2nd wav file so I have
to stitch the two consecutive tracks together in Audition where I
do my editing.

As someone pointed out, recording MIDI doesn't create WAV files. Sounds
like you may be recording the output of a software synth to a file, but
that's probably not necessary.

There is a setting to control how Reaper will create multiple files
during a long recording (Options | Preferences | Recording | Start new
files every (x) megabytes.) You can disable it, but it's a good safety
measure. You shouldn't have to manually stitch the files together -
when you render the track the system will do that for you seamlessly.